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He is eating chunks of cheese but not much else. He has no head tilt it just seems to be the one front leg and both back legs. If anyone has any help or comments I would appreciate it. I am worried to call the vet in case they tell me he has to be euthanised, he is an 11 yr old boxer I know this is a good age for boxers. I have sent my dad out for chicken maybe this he will eat too..

Any advice would be appreciated. He has been given antibiotics and painkillers.. I am sooooo relieved. He lives to fight another day!!! She never had the best eye sight so we may be limited going forward. A great vet, TLC and a tough cookie of a dog and she is coming home tomorrow.

Our 13 year old German Shepherd has been diagnosed with vestibular disease. Day one mild attack with apparent recovery. Day 2 much worse, hardly able to walk taken to vet — antibiotic and steroid injections. Day 3 condition worsened, vets again and more injections — steroids and antibiotics, hardly able to stand more head tilt. Day 4 no improvement but not getting worse. Vets for whom I have the highest regard talking of euthanasia. My dilema is how long would be reasonable to wait before expecting to see some improvement.

Dave, i got a house visit yesterday and my vet said that when called out to a dog with vestbular, and owners request pts, it is the only time he reccommends leaving a bit to see how dog improves. He collasped on the garden yesterday took him to the vets last night as he could nt walk.. Louise Hi, sorry to hear about your boy. I have been sleeping with her since. I support her with pillows and keep her moved, so she doesnt stay atoo long on one side.

I very rarely leave my bitch i am with her to reasure her and have taken sick leave from work…. My 13 year old dog started having Vestibular problems in October At first he was like drunk and the symptoms were gone within hours. They gradually took him longer to recover, 2 — 5 days, 1 or 2 of not able to stand at all, then a bit drunk for a few days. He was never sick, but sometimes took pursuading to eat which is unheard of for him.

The strokes were happening every 2 — 3 weeks, in all he had about Vivitonin, 2 twice a day for his body weight have helped, the strokes happened on a 5 week basis, taking him longer to recover, up to 7 or 8 days. He once had 3 strokes in 3 days. I know how frightening it is, I am petrified of losing my lovely boy. I came across this site last summer, and read with interest the drugs Martin used, my dog was already on vivitonin and Aktivate, I told my vet about Betahistine Serc and she ordered some, we decided to give him one a day to try and get his balance back, he was a bit wobbly, AND he has not had a stroke for over 6 months.

I give him 1 a day and will never stop. It could be coincidence, but as he is not having side effects. He is now 14 and 3 months. A lot of patience is needed, at times after a stroke his head would be on a complete tilt and he would fall over a lot, by some miracle he had a stroke in the opposite side and it straightened his head, he is permanetely on a body harness so I can help if needed.

I also bought from the Dog mobile company a full body harness for the days he could not walk at all, a godsend in getting him out to the loo, worth every penny. My life has changed completely since it all started, I must thank Martin for this web site, you have given my beloved dog back quality of life. My adopted 6. A CT scan revealed a lot of infection in the inner ear that had to be flushed out while she was under. It was a lot of worry and heartache; patience and TLC was the best medicine.

A dermatologist diagnosed food allergy as a major culprit. Ironically, I was waiting for her to recover the ear infection before seeing a dermaologist for her increasing allergy symptoms paw chewing, scratching her ears, etc. My local vet has just suggested laser light treatment to try to improve the head tilt. Any info you can share would be greatly appreciated. For example, I returned the unused Venison kibble in original bag, no matter how I used for a full refund or exchange for the next bag I purchased through the facility. I have a 5 month old boxer whom had a vaccination on Tuesday and Thursday morning he walked around like he was drunk.

By Friday morning he had the head tilt and his eyes started looking funny and he appeared to have a brakeal sp nerve issue in his right leg. He would not use his leg and he screamed no matter where you touched it. On Saturday he had a CT done on his brain and spine and all were normal. Spinal tap fluid is clear but they did find some cells that could indicate meningitus. He has ate, played and never had a fever through all of this. At this point he was on 20 mg of Prednisone for the second day.

By Sunday morning he was walking on all 4 legs.

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We are now treating him for Steroid-Responsive Meningitus but I just dont think that is what he has. He has never been sick through the this whole process. He still has a severe head tilt the eyes have stopped the ticking but he seems aggitated and hyper and does not sleep hardly at all. He is on 40 mg of prednisone for 7 days and then we will start tapering off. Could the prednisone be affecting him so he cannot relax and sleep? How long does it take for the severe head tilt to get better if it is going to? If this is vaccine related would it be treated in the same manner?

He is also on Clavamox. All his blood and urine tests have been normal through this whole ordeal. The Specialists are also seeing if any bacteria will grow in the spinal tap fluid. To rule out bacterial menengitus. I want my puppy back! At least I understand this disease better bc of this website.

Hi my 9 year old x german shepard had an attack of Vertigo this week and since being put on a combination of medication has not stopped urinating. He is on Baytril, Vivatonin and Prednicare. He has started urinating lots in the house. Should this cause additional concern or is it a side effect of the medication? His balance is better and his eyes seem back to normal and no head tilt noticable or sickness, just this urination and tiredness. Mind you he is also quite a good actor when he wants to be and loves the cwtches he is getting.

Amanda prednisolone makes them drink more than usual and urinate more than usual. It may be that, combined with the vestibular syndrome causing home to urinate in the house. However need to let your vet know ASAP, prednisolone also makes urinary tract infection more likely, your vet can check a urine sample to rule this out. Amanda, I agree with Susie, the steroid will be causing the urinating. My gir is now three weeks on since her first diagnosis. Well my vet was amazed when he seen how well Clova had come on since he last saw her.

My daughter asked me to look after her 14 year old dog for a few days and almost immediately started displaying the symptons of Vestibula Syndrome although at the time I thought he had, had a stroke, what a great forum to read above all the other experiences of dog owners and this distressing condition.

Maxi had a steroid injection last night but none of the other drugs mentioned above. He has drunk some water this morning but refused food He was very, very sick on Monday and yesterday. I have offered chicken and scrambled but he does not want the, I have to get a heart tablet down Maxi sometime today and he will not eat, guess I shall have to push it down his throat which he hates.

Patrician, the sickness is due to the inbalance. My poor dog has been so ill today and it s a Sunday thanks to your blog I have found out what is wrong with her Vestibula Syndrome she is Your blog has been a great help to us over the last 24 hours, our dog 13 year came down with Vestibula Syndrome this week -end. From reading your blog and other peoples post we have a better dog. Got lots of information from You Tube as well. Keep up the good work. His appetite is now better than it was before and I put this down to Vivitonin twice a day, he also gets a heart tablet and an arthritis tablet.

Martin and everyone else I took so much comfort from this forum and seeing that lots of other dogs have had exactly the same symtons as our Max. Even though I had dogs when I lived in Kenya, I had never heard of Vestibular Syndrome before and how awful the symtoms are.

You learn something new everyday even when you are a grandma like me. Lots and lots of TLC and do not give up on your dog unless you are sure that nothing can be done. Mark and Annette at the Hospital were great but Martin has helped just by explaining the condition clearly and may I say thank you Martin. He is however been slowly getting back to eat his food and want to play. I would be interested if chocolate could have caused this as I have found out 3 days before this happened someone had given Beau some chocolate sweet with biscuit on the bottom and like a chocolate fudge on top?

Thanks Bill. Hi I am contacting you from Dublin, Ireland. His name is Muttley and he just suffered what we assume to be a bout of Vestibular Syndrome. My 3 kids were devastated as he was very shaky on legs, vomited and was off food. We noticed the ticking eyes and we assumed the worst. I did a websearch and was unable to locate an agent for Betahistine — can you offer any advise on sourcing same? Would just like to say a big thank you to everyone that has left comments on this blog about vestibular syndrome.

Really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their experiences, it is invaluable for other owners going through the same thing. Rob Best place to get Betahistine would be through your vet, they will know where to source it. Equally important they may wish to adjust dose of Betahisitine or other drugs being used depending on the regime, general health etc of Muttley. Bill and Beau — I would think very unlikely to be chocolate toxicity from a boxer eating the amount of chocolate you describe. Howeve you should ask your vet for a more accurate opinion based on his weight,.

Hi everyone, This blog has been really helpful. We have a 7 year old labrador who has been showing signs of vestibular disease. Her main problem is nystamus. She becomes very dizzy and seeks reassurance bless her. Our vet has precribed anti fit tablets epiphen which has sedated her quite a lot and not really helped. Our vet has never mentioned vestibular disease but after looking up the symptoms of hypothyroidism Molly seems to display very similar problems.

I wonder if she has a problem with her thyroid and this is causing the vestibular disease? The vet would like her to have an MRI however cost is an issue. Whether the insurance will cover this is a dilema as she showed clinical signs before we took out the policy. This has been very helpful for us as we now have a better understanding of what is going on and we will ask the vet about this disease. Stumbling around like she was drunk Collapsing Leaning up things rather than lying down And really disturbing eye twitching.

I know that it could be Vestibular Disease after reading this, however there are slight differences in my case. There was no vomiting, no head tilt. Please help should I take her to the vet just in case even though she is back to her normal self? This site has been very helpful to us. Our 13 year old Sheltie had similar symptoms 4 weeks ago. We took her to the emergency vet hospital and they ran tests which showed everything normal. Since then, she has spells of panic attacks and mild to moderate rapid flickering of the eyes. She runs to the doggie door but when she gets outside she stands there not knowing what to do.

Do you think this might be vestibular disease, too? My 13 and a half year old otherwise fit and active golden retriever had her first geriatric vestibular attack on Tuesday this week and struggled to balance, walk, and fell over when she turned corners. She had a nystagmus but unusually her eyes initially went up and down, by day 2 they were flickering from side to side which seems to be more the norm and by day 3 this has gone.

The vet diagnosed the above condition and prescribed Vivitonin for her. She was sick once but only due to her stubborn nature when she determinedly wanted to go for a walk then felt dizzy! Three days on she only has a slight head tilt and her balance is almost back to normal. She managed to walk all the way along the beach today. This site is fantastic for advice and reassurance and helped me understand more of what my vet said. Wishing all your dogs a happy recovery!! Has anyone else had a dog who got VS more than once? Boo 15 has been displaying the same symptoms for three days.

He gamely comes on walks, but if he stops suddenly, or looks back quickly, he stumbles over to the side. As far as I can tell, there is no nystagmus, and no pronounced head tilt. Are those necessary for a diagnosis of VS? I also would like an update on any dogs having a second attack of IVS, as I walk a dog elderly 15 year old greyhound terrier cross who is suffering again and will not eat. She is under vet care and is well looked after but any information would be welcome. I have an 11year old labrador cross collie. Although ageing she is fit. This morning I noticed she became alarmed and her legs front and back seemed to buckle and she had problems with her swallowing initially.

Eventually she settled — and even ate soom food though struggling to hold her weight. She has not been sick. She will then collapse where she is. I was wondering whether this was neurological or whether she might have had some form of stroke? This site was so helpful — my Yorkie-X Dylan has recently been diagnosed with vestibular disease and is now on vivitonin and steroids.

My 13 year old had her first vestibular attack on the Jubilee weekend…. My god how frightening, we truly thought that she had suffered a stroke.. The evening before she had been her usual crazy self swimming in the river and constant barking for us to throw her ball! We rushed her to the vets with the symtoms of a head tilt, eyes wizzing from side to side and wobbling like she was drunk! The vet told us to give it time, she would slowly recover and gave us some anti sickness pills… After three days she was walking pretty normal other than the odd wobble when she stops for a sniff..

She is still refusing to eat…. We have tried absolutely everything… Chicken, sausages, cheese, soft squashy dog biscuits, gravy but no nothing, just the odd lick of some cat food! Took her back to the vets today as i am so concerned about the lack of appetite, she has had a vitamin injection and has been prescribed some more anti sickness pills! Has anyone else had their best friend in the whole world experience this loss of appetite?

Please help… Its driving me crazy….. Her urine is very diluted which means that she struggling to get rid of the toxins although she is drinking and weeing quite nicely which means that they are working to some extent! Please god she will come home soon and go on a special diet so that the kidneys dont have to work too hard…. The moral of this message is….. My 13 year old Border Collie, Taf,f had a vestibular attack 8 days ago.

He was sick, eyes flickering and was staggering, but after sleeping for a couple of hours seemed fine. However, the next day he had a second attack — was very disorientated, unsteady on his feet and was sick again. That was last Wednesday night.

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The vet gave him a thorough examination, and gave him an injection for his nausea and some tablets to counteract the motion sickness. By the next day day three he had a bit more of a spring in his still rather unsteady step, and was holding his tail a bit higher on our short onlead walks. He also had a good hearty drink, which was a huge relief to me I had been trying to use a syringe prior to that — much to his disgust! He ate a little that day, but his appetite is still poor — rice pudding is the most popular, but even then he does not always show interest in it. However, despite the rather hit and miss appetite will be buying chicken tomorrow — I think that will tempt him!

He still has a bit of a head tilt around the house, but he has made so much progress in such a short space of time I am sure that will soon go as well. My vet was very good gave him an anti-emetic and reassured me! My 14 year old Golden Retriever, Lily, has this. It started last Tuesday night. She was sick and when I looked at her I thought she had had a stroke.

The vet diagnosed VS. It is now Friday and she is still very unsteady and wobbly. This morning she was very disorientated and her head is constantly on one side and her eyes flickering and her head appearing floppy on her neck. She has had blood tests and everything was o. Right from the first night it happened she has continued to eat as normal though I have only given her a light diet of chicken and rise especially as she has bad diarrhoea.

I would appreciate any information as to how long it might take for her to be able to walk even relatively steadily. At the moment she can only manage a couple of steps at a time and either then falls down or just stands looking around vacantly. Hi, I am so glad that this site has been created. All the symptoms mentioned on here except he did not lose his appetite once the initial sickness passed, he actually ate more than usual.

He is twelve and a half but up until this attack has always acted like a 2 year old. The distressing thing is that 3 weeks ago he had a second attack, far more severe than the first one. It took his mobility away completely and he lost total control of his bladder, in fact the only thing he appeared able to move was his head. We rushed him to the vets thinking this would be his last trip, however the vet gave him steroid, anti-inflammatory and anti-biotic injections and told us to watch him over the next 48 hours.

By day 5 we felt we had given him long enough, aprt from the fact that we felt we were being selfish by keeping him in this state, we were also exhausted by the fact we were still changing his bedding regularly and bathing him, so we took the decision that he must take his final trip to the vet, this was not an easy decision both my husband and I were heart broken. The appointment was made but he confounded us by getting up and staggering out into the garden just half an hour before he was due to go.

Currently I am sitting with my 14 year old golden retriever who 3 days ago had all the symptoms of vestibular — I had just taken her to the vet on Friday due to her bad arthritis in her back legs. This is her 2nd time With this disease so I am a bit calmer although she is older and this time is not able to get up at all without help. Although Sally is old and arthritic she is still eating If that ever stops I really will panic , hangs on to be carried outside to the toilet but very very wobbly.

I have a 15 year old Whippet,who has these symptoms one day every one to two months,she recovers within a day,and is back to her usual self.

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I really hope someone can help,as it is awful to see,but would be better than fits i spose Jenny. Our big golden boy-C-Bearand healthy woke up 9 weeks ago-as described above he experienced a sudden onset of what we thought was a stroke-but is vestibular disease. BTW—Thanks for comments-Im feeling better although shakey. Any advice for recurrence—Bear is in real trouble and he is clear headed-wants to be with us -his little sis Casey??? If you need help stabilizing your dog-Ive found the wonder harness-no this is not spam. Has support on both the front and butt. Our dog, a lab and greyhound mix, has been afflicted with this malady for the second time about 1.

The first time it was entirely debilitating and he became a quadraplegic zombie. He could not stand or drink or eat for about 24 hours. He was unresponsive and his eyes would dart back and forth continuously and unconsciously. After that period and a shot of steroids from the Vet he slowly recovered. We used a harness to hold him up to go to the bathroom. We fed him rice and broth to keep him hydrated.

We stayed with him day and night to make sure he was comfortable and safe. Eventually the symptoms subsided and we got our friend back. He continued to show reduced symptoms for months. A few days ago he started to walk erratically and stumble a bit more than usual. He is 15 years old after all.

Then he kind of fell into a wall which was similar to his former state, but not total. We quickly got him to the vet for a steroid shot the same day. He did get worse but not to the point of total collapse like before. We just needed to watch him more often and help him down the porch stairs as he was unsteady and fell every now and then. But he could eat, drink, and eliminate as normal with a little help to keep him upright and steady. I can take him for short walks 10 min. He looks better every day. The main reason I wanted to post this is to let people know that the steroid shot, while not a cure, seems to have helped shorten and lessen the period of disability.

I have not seen this mentioned before on the internet and maybe it can be useful to others where the cause of the vestibular disease is not known idiopathic. Our vet ruled out ear infection and we have not scanned for brain lesions, but those are pretty rare, I guess. Hello I have an 11 yr old Boxer who had an episode a couple of days ago which the very diagnosed as being due to vestibular syndrome following presenting with similar symptoms as described previously. He was a little off colour beforehand and temperature was up and vet have him an antibiotic injection and something to reduce his temp and then the following morning he was violently sick after his breakfast and then lost his balance and his eyes began darting about and he became quite stressed panting etc.


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Veth has now prescribed vivitonin as there is anecdotal evidence to show this elps together with continued anti biotics due to the possibility of infection due to the initial increase in temperature. He is walking better, his eyes are no longer dating about and he is drinking water although hist appetite. He has eaten hardly anything except for a little chicken yesterday. Any suggestions as to what else to offer him to try to tempt him to eat would be gratefully received.

He is sleeping quite a bit but is calm and relaxed and back to trying to shadow me again so definitely progressing in right direction if only he would eat something. Seems like eternity. I first thought epilepsy past Britt had it , or stroke. On Mon. Like a 6 wk old pup back to 6 yr. My 10 year old Russet Labrador has had two attacks in the last 8 weeks.

She recovered reasonably well the first time,but had the head tilt and was still unsteady. Then yesterday made an emergency trip to a late night vets as the symptoms were back again. The vet was very optimistic and put her on Cephorum mg for 7 days plus the original Vivitonin ,and found that Jazz had a severe ear infection,lm hoping that this is really the cause of the attacks and can be cleared up with more tablets. Thought I would post a comment as it may help. My Ben is a 12 year old we think greyhound cross. Two year ago he had his first episode at 1.

Not pleasant at all. It scared us all but we did as the vet said — stayed with him and gave him plenty of love. He took about two weeks to fully recover although he staggered when walking. Ben is still with us and is on vivitonin. He has since had two more much lesser episodes and today has had his forth one. I am doing now what we have done previously. Lots of love so he knows we are here. Support around his back end so he can get outside for toilet.

Helping him to get on and off the settee as he is insistent to still sit with us. Offering or assisting him to the water food and offering small bits of food. Just to add. Ben still enjoys walks — short ones with a harness on. He still staggers a bit especially if he gets excited or turns quickly, but he still eager to go.

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We help steady him when he goes in and out the house but otherwise he still the same Ben. We are now more confident in dealing with Ben during these episodes although we struggled the first time. We know this will probably be a regular occurrence but so long as he still shows an interest in life we will still make sure he enjoys one. I hope this offers help to people. Reading some of the above comments has been helpful. We are now onto 5 day of VS attack, every time we think Marley 15 year old whippet has started to improve he then seems to have another attack.

But all the comments seem to lead to improvement in time, so there is hope :. Classic symptoms, loss of control in his hind legs, eyes flicking from side to side rapidly and a head tilt. Took him to the vets, who gave him a steroid injection, and he seems to be settling down now hours after the onset. My 12 year old Border terrier had an attack on Monday. I thought he had had a stroke and took him straight to the vets. He was seen and diagnosed within minutes. We were advised to leave him with the vets overnight. His head is at an acute angle and he has nystagmus which must be very distressing.

He has been with the vets for 2 days now and there has been a slight improvement today. We are hoping to be able to bring him home today or tomorrow. He has also been treated with broad spectrum antibiotics. My 14 yr old red setter x retriever is at the vets tonight with her 2nd episode of VS in a year. I would love to read comments from others whose dogs have had 2 episodes of this. My dig had her attack a week ago. She has started to eat rice with fish but is struggling to drink water so I am putting lots of water in with her food whihc is helping.

She is sleeping most of the time and seems quite confused. The eye flicering lasted approximately 3 days. She is now able to go to the bottom of the garden and find her way back but has the head tilt an is still struggling to walk straight. A lot of the symptoms described in the article and people that have written are similar to what my dog had experienced..

He is a terrier mixed dog that is at least 12 years old. His attack occurred 5 nights ago and slowly is improving with his walking. His appetti is good, but of course he is getting what he wants eat. The vet examined him and indicated that this can happen to older dogs. No medications were prescribed. I think his eye sight is still bad and may only see out of his good eye which may be part of why the head tilts. I just hope my dog like many of the dogs described here pull through.

My little yorkie Missy who is only 4 yrs old had an attack 6 nights ago. Shes a very hyper bouncy dog. It took her 10 mins to come round out of this. Then the vomiting started. I thought she had broken her back. Blood results came back negative. She started eating yesterday after gettin a bag of fluids over the weekend. But have been told it may happen again. The detail. I am so grateful for the information here, having rushed to the vet this afternoon with my 12 year old Jack Russell. When the mouse nips at Lennie's fingers, he crushes its skull.

George has to make Lennie throw the mouse away. It is revealed that George and Lennie had to sneak out of the town of Weed because Lennie got in trouble when he tried to "touch" a woman's dress. The dress was soft and Lennie wanted to rub fabric in his hands. George insists that Lennie remember this place by the river in case he gets in trouble again.

As Lennie and George fall asleep they talk about their version of the American Dream, to own their own ranch some day and live off the fat of the land. Every part of him was defined: small, strong hands, slender arms, a thin and bony nose" 2. His arms did not swing at his sides, but hung loosely I gotta tell you again, do I? Jesus Christ, you're a crazy bastard! I tried not to forget. Honest to God I did, George I remember about the rabbits, George" They got no family.

They come to a ranch an' work up a stake and then they go inta a town and blow their stake, and the first thing you know they're pounding their tail on some other ranch. They ain't got nothing to look ahead to. We got a future. We got somebody to talk to that gives a damn about us. If them other guys gets in jail they can rot for all anybody gives a damn. But not us" An' have rabbits. Go on George! Tell about what we're gonna have in the garden and about the rabbits in the cages and about the rain in the winter and the stove, and how thick the cream is on the milk like you can hardly cut it.

Tell about that, George Well, said George, we'll have a big vegetable patch and a rabbit hutch and chickens. And when it rains in the winter, we'll just say the hell with goin' to work, and we'll build up a fire in the stove and set around it an' listen to the rain comin' down on the roof When we get the coupla acres I can let you tend the rabbits all right Let's have different color rabbits, George. Sure we will. Red and blue and green rabbits, Lennie. Millions of 'em. Furry ones, George, like I seen in the fair in Sacremento. Sure furry ones. I seen poison before, but I never seen no piece of jail bait worse than her.

You leave her be" He was a jerkline skinner, the prince of the ranch, capable of driving ten, sixteen, even twenty mules with a single line to the leaders. He was capable of killing a fly on the wheeler's butt with a bull whip without touching the mule. There was a gravity in his manner and a quiet so profound that all talk stopped when he spoke.

His authority was so great that his word was taken on any subject, be it politics or love. This was Slim, the jerkline skinner" That dog of Candy's is so God damn old he can't hardly walk. Stinks like hell, too. Ever' time he comes into the bunk house I can smell him for two, three days. Why'n't you get Candy to shoot his old dog and give him one of the pups to raise up?

I can smell that dog a mile away. Got no teeth, damn near blind, can't eat. Candy feeds him milk. He can't chew nothing else" I drowned four of 'em right off. She couldn't feed that many. At the end of chapter 2, Lennie is as excited as a little child about Slim's puppies.

Lennie wants George to ask Slim if he can have a brown and white puppy. Chapter 3 is about relationships. The author's purpose is to show how unusual George and Lennie's relationship is for this time period. Maybe he ain't bright, but I never seen such a worker.

He damn near killed his partner buckin' barley. There ain't nobody can keep up with him. God awmighty I never seen such a strong guy. He can't think of nothing to do himself, but he sure can take orders During the Great Depression it was very unusual for men to be friends, travel together and look out for each other. Hardly none of the guys ever travel together. I hardly never seen two guys travel together Never seem to give a damn about nobody.

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It jus' seems kinda funny a cuckoo like him and a smart little guy like you travelin' together George said at last. I knowed his Aunt Clara. She took him when he was a baby and raised him up. When his Aunt Clara died, Lennie just come along with me out workin'. Got kinda used to each other after a little while" George explains to Slim that he used to make fun of Lennie's disability but stopped because he almost killed Lennie. Used to play jokes on 'im 'cause he was too dumb to take care of 'imself.

But he was too dumb even to know he had a joke played on him. I had fun. Made me seem God damn smart alongside of him Couldn't swim a stroke. I like practicing endurance sports with at least a half empty stomach. I always thought that so called experts give way too exagerate tips on eating every XXX minutes.

When swimming or when riding my MTB for hours I just have a short break for a snack if I had a good breakfast that for me is a whole meal with eggs, bacon, some bread, coffee, sweets. When swimming, I do not have the opportunity to drink fresh water, but I drink a lot during the day, so I start the training hydrated enough. Also I usually drink from the sea every once in a while, so I get some liquid and, especially, I get some minerals and salts.

I usually have a sea water bottle at home and drink a little everyday. As per peeing, I have a brother who is a doctor, and explained to me that cold water, even mild, can make some people pee a lot because a processus I cannot remember how to explain know. It happens to me. Then may be in your case your ilip-psoas tighten too much while swimming and that causes a narrowing in that area and thus the difficulty to do it in an easiest way.

Awesome, thanks for sharing. Over 4h in the sea in October and without wetsuits sounds impressive to me. What was the water temperature and did you spread anything over your bodies to keep temperature longer? Salvo Thank you for reading and commenting. No protection necessary. We were all pretty comfortable as long as we were swimming and kept our feed stops brief. Thanks for sharing your experience, I like your way of looking at swimming — simply enjoy! Perfect What was your tempo? Simply enjoy is a good way of putting it. I believe our tempo was about 1.

I timed 10 strokes in two places on this video and it appears our tempo at that point was 1. Awesome, I could never do that, swimming in open water for me it would have to be in the Indian Ocean, nice and warm water, a bit dangerous, there great white sharks, but cold water, just the thought makes me shiver. Even the Mediterranean is not that warm for me. I have been swimming on and off since I was 6 or 7, born in Mozambique even in winter pools were warm.

Will be back for more reading thanks! What a dream swim! Definitely a step up from doing laps around the local swimming pool. Thanks for the good blog … and for giving me something to aspire to. Nice one, Terry! The day when we lose that enjoyment is the day we should walk away and take stock of where we are going.

All the best for your next adventure! Tommi and Lennart are such an inspiration… If they can learn a new physical activity such as swimming in this age, then we teenagers and people in their early 20s cannot make excuses. Thanks for the good read Terry. You must be logged in to post a comment. L to R: Tommi, Terry, and Lennart. Rear: Corsica. Lined up to begin. Leaving the harbor on our way to Corsica.

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